Your
Russian, Latin & Asian Marriage Agency Checklist - By THE
Leader in Anti-Scam - Jim
Why is there this special page for complaints against
Natasha Club, 1st International and their other agencies?
MASSIVE NEWS - FEBRUARY, 2010 - 100% SCAM PROOF FROM THE SOURCE - CLICK HERE August '09 - read my
investigation into several agencies
return to
1st-international.com and natashaclub.com main page
AMAZING PROOF OF SCAMMING FROM A CLIENT OF THIS AGENCY
Proof from a former employee of this agency - scroll down to Helena's post This is because the
agency owner wanted it.
PLEASE make a
complaint with the BBB!!!!!!!!!
https://odr.bbb.org/odrweb/public/complaintlink.aspx
1-866-Y-SINGLE - 1-866-974-6453
I
have several letters from girls that were asking for my help in getting
their profiles removed. They couldn't do it on their own, so they need
to ask the agencies themselves to physically remove it. The agency
ignored their letters and did not remove the profiles. Maybe you are
thinking that it is a misunderstanding. So, can you tell me why the
profiles were removed when the girl again asked for removal and CCed
the letter to me? Yes, they wrote and nothing. They wrote and CCed the
letter to me and the agency removed them. Yes, you know why. The girls
know why. I know why. AND THE AGENCIES KNOW WHY. I do not have these
letters because I disn't think I needed to save them. I was wrong. I'll
save future letters like this.
I only have a few complaints now
because I did not keep the complaints that were for these agencies
because I knew all the info that was contained in them. I get maybe 3
complaints per month. (at 6 years...you do the math.)
Complaints...
INSIDE
INFORMATION...Aug '09
Hey Jim!
I
have some information which could be interesting for you. I have a
(real:-)) girlfriend in Ukraine. She lives in Dnepropetrovsk.
This
summer she has finished scool. Because of the econimc crisis
it's very
hard now for young people to find a job. So she has put her profile to
the internet, and once one woman called her and offered her
to work as
a translator. She was very happy. So she had to go to an office, it's
located on the second floor of a building in the mainstreet.
On the
first floor there is a shop (some kind like souvenirs) There
is
nothing written that this company is there or so...
So she went there and they gave her the job. She said she would
be working for a marriage agency.
Well,
when I was at home, she told me really what kind of work she
has to
do. This agency is a kind of webmaster of NATASHACLUB and
some other
sites (unfortunately I don't remember the names). My girl has
to send
hunderds of letters to men. When they are answering, she has
to make
a conversation with them, in a way that they always will
correspondent only through the website. So a fact is: The
girls on
this websites (Natasha-Club etc.) are not true! My girfriend
has to
work 6 days per week from 8 untill 7 o'clock! They
want to give her
holidays only after 11 months... And they pay only
about 200 dollars
per month! And now this company persuaded my girl also to make some
pictures of her and to put them on this websites.
They want to give
her some (little) money for that. My girl is so
stupid and has done
it. I'm not so happy about it.
So what I wanted to tell you: This companies are not only using
the men, the also using their workers!
Maybe you can put some of this information to your website.
If you want to know more, just write me!
Keep up the good work!
more...Aug '09
Subject: Customer service cannot provide answers
why she remains
From: "****" <****@****.com>
Date: ****
To: jim@agencyscams.com
Cc: greg@1st-international.com
Priority: Normal
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I ask... why do place a married women back on your site? Even the
photos of her are 4 years old. Sofiachet is her screen name ID
1000128513 on First International Marriage Network. Formerly Sofia
1000000111 and had asked to be removed back in Dec 06.
more...aug '09
Hi Jim,
I would like to thank you for your site, and regret to NOT have known
it before!
My name is **** from Paris, France. I have registered on online-dating
ukraine (1st international) this month, which is placed on your black
list. In approximately two weeks of activity, i received more than 500
mails of girls, and maybe 300 since i put my pictures last week!! This
site is a piece of shit and if you want to receive spam, you've got it.
I have found two girls who seemed interesting but each time my mail was
read and my informations deleted! One of the girls told me that
moderators keep people from exchanging personnal information.
I
put 60$ for five letters that i read and when i have requested the
refund, they deleted immediately my account without any warning. I just
couldn't log on! I think i won't see the colour of the refund... If we
cannot exchange information, i don't see the interest of this site
except to steal money! No way to meet and contact girls.
I would like to say to other men: Never use this site!!! Please DON'T!!
I will study carefully your gold list right now!!
Thanks!
****
more...july '09
Maybe you
can include this on your website (if possible without my emailadress).
About www.natashaclub.com and www.online-dating-ukraine.com
Be
careful with this agency. I made a profile there and in 2 days I
received almost 200 letters from very pretty girls (almost all between
18 and 25, and extremely pretty)
I contacted 8 of these girls at
another website. Something like a Russian Facebook. All these girls
were surprised I contacted them. They never gave permission to use
their info and photos on the website of Natashaclub. 100%
SPAM !
As
a man you have to pay if you want to read the letters written by the
girls. Natashaclub is making fake profiles and without permission of
the girls they start writing to the men, who have to pay to read these
letters. This agency is a big SCAM!
more...
I have used 1st International Dating Service a couple of times. The
contact info is
essentially useless. I've maybe ordered a dozen addresses and not had a
single
success.
more...
Please help me post this around the internet, I want men
to be aware of this scamming agency. I submit this as fact.
The marriage agency known as Natasha Club, www.natashaclub.com is an
agency involved in scamming in a big way. This agency purchases
profiles of woman from other agencies and they use these profiles to
send letters to men.
I know this to be a fact because I have
personally met 2 woman from another agency in person and I received a
letter from these 2 woman at Natasha Club. These woman never personally
wrote me a letter at Natasha Club and I know this to be fact because I
contacted them and they did not know anything about having a profile
with this agency.
This agency charges on the average of $5 -
$15 dollars per letter and they will not release personal contact info
until you have exchanged 15 letters from each party. Add this up.
I have received letters from other ladies who have never
viewed my profile
and some of these ladies are unbelievably beautiful. This is all a
gimic in order to get men to spend money to read letters.
This is not an honest business and their tactics make it impossible to
focus on potential partners due to their extravagant pricing structure
and you can never really know if the letter you are receiving is indeed
from a legitimate person.
Even though it is true you can
purchase the contact info for someone you are interested in for the
amount of $50 instead of exchanging 15 letters the lady must agree to
release her information and Natasha Club will not let you know if the
lady will release her inforamtion or not until you pay them. I got
burned with this, I paid them and I was not given the contact info.
Natasha Club claims to be in compliance with IMBRA but if
you read carefully and know the law they are not in compliance.
Unless you are prepared to spend 100's of dollars and spin your wheels
on nothing I would not recommend dealing with these crooks.
more...
Hello!
I'm Diego from italy. First of all I want to make compliments for your
website, it's
realy intersting and helpful. I just wanted to give you one more
comment about the
website natashaclub.com I've contacted a
girl on another website and I've also
met her in real life, now I can say we're engaged, anyway I know she
used a local
agency where a traslater helped her to write letters...now she's not
using websites,
both because she met me and also because she has a busy job, but a
friend of mine
has seen her contact on natashaclub and wrote her, she answered with
quite udated
news about her...just was curios to know how on this website they know
about her? Do
you think her translater probably uses her informations and photos to
contact men
and get money?
Anyway I know another girl in this website, she's engaged and she
doesn't use it
too...but I've seen her profile "online"...so I suppose this agency is
really a
fake. So I just wanted to ask you if you know how their work with local
agencies?
Because my friend is member there and I want to avoid him to waste
money!
Best regards!
more...
I did get taken by Natasha's club... they
drain money faster than any place I have seen... But I had 2 women that
got profiles on ELena's and we started letters, and first said he had a
video at Natasha, for me to look at it so I would know she was real..
Had to join for free to see it... sent her a letter from there and told
her I watched it and would write from ELena's.. she wrote back from
Natasha's.. cost 20 dollars to see the letter... she says she wants to
use that site the tranlation is faster.. 4 letters later she still
owuld not understand to us elena's where she had my e-mail... Of course
a scam... wrote letter to Natasha's told them what a rip off they was.
etc. etc. they wrote back and said, if I paid to open the letters it
was my fault.. I reported the girl to Elena's and told what she was
doing.. they kicked her profile out...
more...
Dear Jim,
Thank you for all your work. I regret that I found you only recently!
After
7 months on 1st-international, I now see why you blacklist them. The
site is FULL of women who string along men (who pay to open each
e-mail) until the 15th exchange (after which site will release girl's
full name and e-mail address).
But the shills exchange 14
letters, then send a "blow-off" letter!!! I recently was corresponding
with four very promising women. ALL turned out to be shills! I had
spend about $500 on them!!!
I learned a new defense: Google a
phrase or two from her letter, her profile. So many are found. Often
entire description of letter is stolen from one person, or compiled
from several other profiles!!!
Following is "feedback" I
recently sent to 1st-international (which has nothing but gorgeous
women!!!!). It is fourth memo I have sent in 3 days. Another
memo
listed women who previously shilled me.
****
more...
Dear Sir,
I
was registered on natashaclub and for me it is ending now so in them
site is staying that if you are not happy with the site they guarantee
you that you have 100% back your money, so i was sick after it and ask
also my money back, so what they send me that i receive nothing back
because my credits are on zero and they put away my profile...This they
call 100% guarantee money back???? What can i do on this? I
spend a
lot of money and they give nothing back, this is real maffia I hope
that you can give me some information, my name is **** and i am from
****
Kind Regards
****
Dear Mr. ****,
Your profile will be removed in
24 hours.
Your current balance is zero,
therefore no refund has been issued.
Best regards,
Gregory Yarmosh
Customer Communications and Security
Manager
www.1st-international.com
*
JIM'S NOTE - So, if your balance is zero, you cannot get a refund?
Well, I told the guy to send them an email, cc it to me and get a
better explantion. Guess what? The agency changed the reason. 100%
sure-fire way of spoting a scam. They said he had to get a refund
within one month. Still bullshit.
more...
Hello, Jim:
Found your site by accident, but wanted to give you some more
documentation about Natasha Club.
I
recently placed a profile on their site along with my picture. It took
about 8 hours for the profile to be approved. Once approved, I received
over 60 letters from girls/women on this site, none of which were in
the age brackets I set down in the profile. One girl was only 17 !
Within
one day, I saw that my profile had been REJECTED, after being approved.
I called there, and got some lady who could barely speak English. Then,
she advised me that she was the one that rejected my profile (after it
being approved) because she stated that I looked like a model, and
therefore could not be a real person. Then she demanded that I place
another picture on the site to prove I was real. I advised her I was
real, and I was sorry I was a decent lookiing person, to which she said
she would approve my profile but was eliminating my picture. Then she
advised me that I had another profile there, to which I told her I did
not. Why would I want to have 2 profiles? Then she told me I had not
purchased any credits, and I advised her that my profile had just been
approved, and why would I purchase any credits when I had not even been
able to read any of the ladies letters, because you cannot answer
letters without profile approval ?
I then talked to Greg
Yarmosh, the "security manager" at Natasha Club (1st International) and
he advised me that if they do not believe I am real, then they will
reject the profile. He also told me I look like a model (I am not a
model) and I look "too good". I advised him I was born that way, and
sorry I was not a beer gut like so many pictures I looked at of men on
the site (as a comparison to what I look like). He then told me there
was nothing he was going to do about it, and was terminating my
profile. Anyway, I hope your readers see this. I was shocked at their
responses to me.
* JIM'S
NOTE - So,
aside form the complete bullshit of this situation, why are girls
allowed to make profiles with obvious stolen photos or known scammer
photos or mulitple profiles?
more...
Hi Jim
I wanted to share my story with you so you can add it to your website. I was a member of the Russian Woman . CA website and I was very frustrated. First I got bombarded by emails when I first signed on. It seemed legitimate but then as soon as I got the 15 letters the agency stopped translating my letters. When I asked them 'why' they informed me that I had to pay 5 credits for translations. While I was communicating with what I thought was Ukrainian women I was paying 4 credits. So why the hell would I pay more credits even after I opened the standard '15' letters?????
Then when I got the contact information I was getting partial addresses. Some of the women continued to write me through the agency saying that it was easier for them. When I pointed out to them that I can write them through the mail they continued to write me through the website.--- I never got a straight answer out of the women.
One even had an email address that I wrote to but she never emailed me back. Instead she kept writing me through Russianwoman.ca. I di dn't pay to open them. This website also told me that in order to meet the women I would have to pay $70 per lady. Also they said that to have a translator I would have to pay an additional $15 to $20 an hour while I was visiting Ukraine. That whole website is a money pit.
more...Oct '09
Dear Jim
I only found your site this morning and wish I had found it sooner.
I've been scammed by the owner of Natasha club, a guy by the name of
Gregory Yarmosh.
Let me explain:
I've been writing to this one girl in Nikolaev for many months now, and
the week before I was to actually fly to Nikolaev the girl's profile
was deleted. I contacted Gregory and he told me that they have
administrative issues, but they will get her online very soon. It's
been two weeks now, and my visa is expiring in the next couple of days.
I asked the guy for my money back, since it is not my problem that they
have issues. I had written 50 letters to this girl, and the first 15 I
had to pay 5 credits for each letter. His sollution was to refund me
the last 24 letters from a certain date without any reason why.
Then there was this other girl (see attached photo). I wrote her a few
letters, but her letters cost 11 credits each. So I told ehr her
letters are too expensive and I can't write to her anymore. She then
sent me letters upon letters begging me to "buy" her contact info from
the agency so we can stay in contact via private e-mail. I did this and
then never heard from her again. Now, this to me seems like a scam.
When I told Gregory about these problems the greedy bastard always gave
all kinds of excuses and he will only refund the bare minimum. The guy
is running a scam and he thinks he is untouchable. I want you to have
all this info to publish it on your site. And if you have any advise
for me how I can sue this bastard, please let me know. I live in South
Africa, and I do make a good living, so I will do whatever it take to
this bastard burn.
Sincerely
**** more... - Dec '09 Hello Jim, I know you are probably inundated with mail like this but here goes: I
sent a letter to a woman who has her profile on NatashaClub. I know
this woman, we have met, we were dating! I got a reply "from her"
saying she is serious, wants TO MEET, blah, blah, blah. So, I called
the real Irina on the phone and asked her if she sent me a message
through the agency. She said "No, No, No! must be a mistake."
Obviously, somebody is writing letters for her. So, I just sent another
letter saying how nice it would be to meet, that I have never been to
her city, how I desperately need help to find a place to stay....just a
bunch of bait that the real Irina would question. My
question to you: How far should I take this? Is there anything
else I can do "for the cause" to prove this is a fake agency? Thanks, **** more...May '10 Good
day jim thanks for your site --i was scammed by natasha club and your
site and hard work confirmed this I paid 50 usd to get a girls direct
contact details and she aggreed and after I paid this her profile was
so called removed on her instructions and I even challenged the site
but they kept on telling me they will trie and contact her directly
these asholes should go to jail I lost a lot of money on this site my
eyes was opened on dating foreign woman regards ****
Jim
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